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Questions
Describe
your climbing background:
I could have easily remained a boulderer.
The simplicity of bouldering was initially
very appealing. Reading the rock and learning
its passage quickly turned my interest for
climbing into a full-time obsession. But
living in Telluride, CO with its strong traditional
community, it was difficult to ignore the
influences of my peers and mentors. I loved
climbing so much I wasn't willing to regret
missing some aspect of the sport. The local
crag is called the Ophir Wall and it’s
notoriously difficult to protect. Scared
as all hell, I rose to the expectations of
leading on traditional gear and I did my
very best to onsight whatever I was attempting.
And on the weekend’s I would travel
to Indian Creek, where I learned to grovel
in cracks and accept the tenacity it took
to lead them. With two-years of climbing
under my belt and a “no stone left
unturned sort of philosophy,” I attempted
the Salathe in February (if that is any indication
of my "greenness"!). The entire
time I was up there I thought it was unnatural
for humans to be on a wall so monstrous.
Cracks were running with water and I was
so scared but I managed to swing leads up
the Hollow Flake and out the Ear. It really
sucked but when I hit the Valley Floor after
a successful ascent, something changed for
me. The elation was so intoxicating that
I was already planning for another big wall
adventure before the haul bag was off my
back!!
What are you up to when you’re
not climbing?
Living on the coast, I enjoy surfing, although
I don't spend as much time in the water as
I would like. I'm very involved with a strength
and conditioning program called Crossfit—equal
parts of gymnastics, Olympic Weight Lifting
and track and field. It has been a tremendous
asset to my climbing.
Who or what inspires you?
Inspiration, for me personally, exists in
what I have yet to accomplish—the next
logical step in my progression as a climber.
And when there's big news like Tommy's two
free ascents of El Cap in one day or Yuji's
on-sight attempts, then that is also inspiring...
personally, but also collectively. Collectively,
it's the next logical step in the development
of the sport. That will be exactly what the
next generation holds in their hearts as
possible. It's setting the stage for that
natural progression of rising standards.
How do you see climbing evolving in the next
five years?
I expect to be blown away at what the emerging
generation is going to establish as being
physically possible. I also hope to see it
manifest in Yosemite by continuing with the
standard that Yuji Hirayama has laid down
with his tremendous on-sight efforts. The
indoor industry is also going to explode!
We are in the midst of a quantum growth spurt
and fitness and adventure is now trendy making
indoor climbing gyms a perfect fit! If you
think about it, they're wide reaching talent
nets exposing the sport of climbing too more
and more of the gene pool. If this, in fact,
is how the community continues to grow explosively,
it will be more important than it already
is for the role of mentors ushering in the
new generation. Offering a depth of perspective
to the activity they already love satisfies
a natural curiosity to know more. In this
way it is a gift... not a sermon. Deep water
soloing, man-made over Olympic pools could
be an avenue for larger and larger corporate
investments. Justen Sjong should be credited
with the pool idea.
Care to comment on: pre-clipping more than
one draw on sport routes or pre-placed gear
on trad routes, chipping/comfortizing holds,
glue vs. no glue?
Well, pre-placed gear on a trad route can
mean a lot of things... especially at a crag
like El Cap. Even beyond the realm of pink
and redpoint ascents, there are days when
fixed gear benefits the freeclimber and days
when it makes a route harder or even impossible.
Sometimes pre-placed gear will help keep
nearby placements free of other fixed gear
that inhibits a free climb. What is important
is for climbers making free ascent claims,
especially on routes that are still climbed
with hammer and pitons, to be upfront with
an honest disclosure as to the nature of
their ascent. This benefits those that follow
and helps to improve the standards already
established. Standards will always improve,
so it is in good style to facilitate this
natural progression. Careful omission clouds
the reality of the tremendous effort and
rehearsal that is put into freeing most every
big wall.
Do you have any vices and what are they?
Yes. They are good beer and sarcasm! I sometimes
enjoy them simultaneously.
Any near death experiences?
One worth mentioning was that fateful first
wall climbing experience on the Salathe.
It was the last day of February and the entire
route was wet and uncomfortable. We were
the only ones on El Cap and as we neared
the summit and settled into our bivy, this
waterfall appeared out of nowhere. Snowmelt
from the summit, in the form of gallons of
water, began falling all around us, peppering
us with golf ball-sized droplets. We jumped
into what little shelter we had, sleeping
bags and bivy sacks and let everything else
get soaked. With completely inadequate gear,
it wasn't an hour into this hellish ordeal
that I had to get out of my soggy cocoon
and dump quarts of accumulated water out
of my bivy sack. Whether it came from where
I was tied into the anchor or the six-inch
puddle I was laying in, I'm not sure. It
became very emotional for me by this time
and I was violently upset for the predicament
I had gotten myself into. Finally giving
away to exhaustion on all levels, I calmed
down to a whimper and passed out. Morning
broke without temperatures dipping below
freezing. It was cold, but we were alive.
We summitted later that day and spent the
night in wet gear on a snowless patch of
ground huddled around a meager pine needle
fire.
What are your future plans or goals in climbing?
They're ambitious, and they primarily pertain
to El Cap. High on the list is to finish
up a project Justen Sjong and I have been
working on, The Free Muir. There are new
lines to establish on El Cap as well, but
one project at a time! I will also be working
with the Santa Cruz kids climbing team. They've
been climbing with one another for years
already and it’s a privilege to be
their coach and friend. I hope to spend a
little time in Europe absorbing an older
climbing culture as well as improving my
own abilities and I have never deep water
soloed and this is going to change.