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Mountain Classic Pick - Past Season
Regular Price $54.95 Sale Price $49.46
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Overview READ MOREClassic, durable curve pick engineered for self-arresting and mountain travel.
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DescriptionClassic, durable curve pick engineered for self-arresting and mountain travel.
- Fits on all current interchangeable-pick ice tools
- CEN-B certified
Mountain Classic Pick - Past Season is rated out of 5 by 2.
Rated 3 out of 5 by Mari from Very helpful I noticed that four people went out of their way to indicate that my lone review of this product is not helpful, so I will try to enlighten the uninitiated. The deficiency I alluded to in this current offering is due to the lack of a chisel-shaped tip on an arced pick which is patently designed for climbing, as opposed to falling, which is the design criteria of this, and all other "self arrest" picks. The last point of my prior review was that any "woke" climber on ice can self-arrest on any shape pick— why dumb it down for the few? Besides, I'm a climber, not a faller. It only takes a few seasons of all-mountain, all season use of a mountaineering ice tool to arrive at the shape which is being offered here— in fact, anyone can file the tip of their pick to any shape they desire. As it is, you're getting less for your money, folks, to have it pre-filed. I can understand the resistance of the uninitiated to accept the utility of the chisel-shape tip, though. There's a book written by a guy named Yvon from California called "Climbing Ice" that covers all anyone would need to know to understand and practice the entry-level techniques involved in using a chisel-shape pick on a 50~70cm ice tool anywhere on this planet— and I'm talking vertical. Those who know better might remember how the former owner of Chouinard Equipment had been adamant about NOT offering picks with angled-tips-- hehe. No doubt the philosophical and evolutionary aspects for alpinists vis a vis one design over the other were real sticking points with the future, and current, CEO of Black Diamond at the time (early 80s), but that was a long time ago. Like I said in the first review, there are already a few generations of alpinists who have zero knowledge, much less an appreciation for the chisel-tip; not to mention no hope of instilling the sensitivity, skill and intimacy with the medium if there's no tool to work with! The practical aspect is you can't make a chisel-tip out of an angled-tip, but a chisel-tip naturally turns into an angled tip over the course of a few seasons— or, those in a big hurry to fall on moderate slopes can always use a file to shape the tip into a "safer" and grabbier tip for falling down or else concede to pulling down on the tool per the current style— and how many pick varieties are offered for that? Yawn. The chisel-tip requires a much more precise sense of balance and a wonderfully disconcerting requirement for pulling out on the tool to set it securely after planting it. It's a less aggressive and more precise approach, if you're curious~ ce la vie. For what it's worth, I have asked Black Diamond to consider tooling ONE production run of a longer-length chisel-tipped pick to be offered to see what the interest is. I'm good for two!
Date published: 2018-11-02
Rated 3 out of 5 by deci from I'm waiting for the classic-shaped flat chisel tip I'd really like to experience "naturally" wearing down the pick's tip from a step-chopping chisel-tip over the course of a few seasons to what is essentially offered on this pick as is. I'm not suggesting that the claw-shape tip is superior, or otherwise— even for self-arrest use. There are already a few generations of alpinists who have no idea what it's like to use a chisel-tip ice-tool, or even why. There's a plethora of claw-shape tips to the exclusion of the one utilitarian tip-design that really ought to be available on an arced tool, and isn't. Personally, I find that self-arresting on "grabby" neve and glaze-ice to be considerably more dangerous using a claw-tip pick. On softer snow and ice, it doesn't even really matter. I lost a partner on K2 who was perfectly willing and able to self-arrest using anything— but he didn't have any time. It wasn't an issue of the pick's tip shape. BD is calling it the "Mountain Classic Pick" …it really should be.
Date published: 2018-08-13